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Man forced by court to raise son as trans child
#11
Ms. Mason:

A physician will not perform an elective procedure without proof that the best interests of the patient are respected, and without all applicable approvals. There are legal and ethical standards that prevent this.

Any medical procedures related to this case will require a wide array of approvals from social workers and other specialists who will insist upon proof of the child's wishes, as clearly demonstrated by independent observations of behaviors and preferences over time. Also, almost certainly, the mother will be required to undergo a psychological evaluation by a court-sanctioned expert who will determine if any mental illness or bias is influencing the mother's behavior.

The mom seems like a model citizen, and she has shown an willingness to cooperate with authorities. I place my faith in the process to make the right decision for the child based on a vast array of professional opinions and a preponderance of evidence.

The chance that the child could undergo some sort of forced medical treatments at the insistence of an overzealous mom is just about zero.

I am troubled by the father's approach, which seems to challenge the legitimacy of the process, rather than provide real science or clear evidence of wrongdoing on the part of the mom. Instead, he seems to offer a point-by-point refutation of the mother's conduct (predictably, as all divorce and child custody cases do), and a faith-based defense that only warns of a default doomsday scenario. This is a classic he said-she said that any serious jurist will see through.

With regard to the Christian faith that the father relies on, please note that I have an academic background in Christian teaching, including a college degree. Christians, by their beliefs, are required to respect and aid the work of healers, and be non-judgmental. If James/Luna needs some special guidance and assistance to recognize his full potential as he sees fit, and that effort requires some degree of sacrifice and understanding, Christians are required to give both.

CONWAY
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#12
We should be cautious when discussing this case. I do not think we want to attract the wrong crowd to our little forum. On the surface level, this appears to be a very bitter custody battle and usually, neither parent has the best interested of the others involved. What I found very strange is there is supposed to be a gag order in place let the father is very openly discussing details that should be kept private. He also states that the court order want let him cut his son’s hair, yet they are multiple posts related to him being able to cut his hair. IMHO, the child being transgender or at a minimum gender creative is just one aspect of this case. There is a lot more going on then what story has been presented and its best to let everything work itself out privately. In the best interest of the forum, I think we should avoid discussing the case openly or we will attack a very vile crowd who are on a warpath.

Conway, for some reason you do not accept PMs. Do you have this turned off on purpose?
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#13
Ms. Chris, I didn't know it was possible to turn off PMs. If you can tell me how to correct this, I would be appreciative.

(08-05-2019, 01:21 AM)RadicalFeminist Wrote: We should be cautious when discussing this case. I do not think we want to attract the wrong crowd to our little forum. On the surface level, this appears to be a very bitter custody battle and usually, neither parent has the best interested of the others involved. What I found very strange is there is supposed to be a gag order in place let the father is very openly discussing details that should be kept private. He also states that the court order want let him cut his son’s hair, yet they are multiple posts related to him being able to cut his hair. IMHO, the child being transgender or at a minimum gender creative is just one aspect of this case. There is a lot more going on then what story has been presented and its best to let everything work itself out privately. In the best interest of the forum, I think we should avoid discussing the case openly or we will attack a very vile crowd who are on a warpath.

Conway, for some reason you do not accept PMs. Do you have this turned off on purpose?
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(08-05-2019, 01:21 AM)RadicalFeminist Wrote: We should be cautious when discussing this case. I do not think we want to attract the wrong crowd to our little forum. On the surface level, this appears to be a very bitter custody battle and usually, neither parent has the best interested of the others involved. What I found very strange is there is supposed to be a gag order in place let the father is very openly discussing details that should be kept private. He also states that the court order want let him cut his son’s hair, yet they are multiple posts related to him being able to cut his hair. IMHO, the child being transgender or at a minimum gender creative is just one aspect of this case. There is a lot more going on then what story has been presented and its best to let everything work itself out privately. In the best interest of the forum, I think we should avoid discussing the case openly or we will attack a very vile crowd who are on a warpath.

Conway, for some reason you do not accept PMs. Do you have this turned off on purpose?

Insightful comment and sane suggestion. Agreed.
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#15
Emborios, RF, Conway and all,

As forum Moderator, I set standards, always under the direction of Auntie Helga. My goal is to allow as many people here as can be reasonable and polite in their discourse.

We have established that PDQ does not advocate and won't permit general advocacy of forced chemical or surgical gender- or sex- changing for children.

However, this case is different: It's a specific case, no member is asked or urged to do anything except to join a cause on one side or another.

I've been asked to check this out. My inclination is to allow these discussions provided the discussion remains reasonable and polite. I'll confirm this with Auntie Helga.

Consider the Source
Emborios, your article came from RT, the Russian news/propaganda site.

Speaking to US citizens: RT is like Fox News with explicit government support. It is a government sponsored propaganda site that publishes media of several types, much of it informative (I watched an RT video about a huge lava flow in Siberia — informative and propaganda free.

Other RT stories are less innocuous. RT has spread false stories to disrupt the politics of the US and other countries.

Putin's government seeks to destabilize western democracies and uses RT in subtle ways, not always false. The purpose is to cause deeper divisions in our society, to divide us and to create greater mistrust among our institutions and the citizens as well as between citizens.

In this case, they have the luxury of a case that inherently divides our nation. The result they want from the article is to further polarize us. In this case, simply the facts create a division:
"See, those Godless fags are taking over the country!" "See, those religious conservatives can't consider people with different values are still OK people."

So let's consider our sources.

If your source is RT, please confirm the story with a reputable western source and publish that source instead.

To be clear, I'm not taking a stand, personal or as Moderator, on the specific case.

Nor am I rebuking Emborios for posting from RT. Nothing wrong here, I'm questioning the particular source.

I'm sending this to Auntie Helga. She, as always, has the last say.

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#16
at 8 I knew I wasn't like other boys, it was obvious to me, but in a society that only accepts 2 genders, it's difficult to accept yourself, let alone voice your opinions when they go against the grain. Thankfully my family had to make a few allowances, I avoided sports and that gym change room when I could. I circled myself with girls who knew I didnt want to be their boyfriend. I hid in plain site. 10 yrs later, nothing changed, except my masculine traits I never knew I could use blockers for..
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#17
I think that every human being identifies with certain percentages of the opposite gender . Everyone in this forum should already know this otherwise every diffrent sissy .Tv .Maid and all the rest would be stuck in that one catagory of identity . We don't we experiment and evolve taking years and decades to find out who or what we really are . What you want or like as a child should not define you permanently as an adult . There are lots of diffrent panties in all diffrent sizes and colours and one size really doesn't fit or suit all .
Angel A little bit of hanky panky does you good .  Angel
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#18
(07-17-2019, 09:16 PM)emborios Wrote: This is amazing. the article isn't happy about it but this is how things should be:

https://www.rt.com/usa/445172-transgende...mom-court/

Honestly mothers should always have the final word on what happens to their sons. People who are against this should be in prison for forcing their toxic masculinity on society.

I’m not sure if I’m against it per se but I’ll ask a hypothetical question to point in the direction of my concerns:

Suppose it was to be determined that the boy was actually quite happy being a boy and in fact it was the mother effectively taking her revenge on the father by eradicating her son’s masculinity (and the article doesn’t really come to an adequate conclusion on this) would you still think that the father and his supporters should go to prison for trying to uphold his son’s wishes.

My mum regularly made me wear girl’s and women’s clothes (as a form of punishment rather than revenge) and I had to present as a female secretary while under her roof after turning 18. Although I Present as an air hostess full time now, for most of my childhood I put up a lot more resistance. 

The boy in the article could well find himself in a position where if it goes as far as transitioning he has no choice but to become female for the long term / permanently when it doesn’t seem at all certain that they have established that that is what he actually wants.

With lipstick kisses

Girlygirl
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#19
The issue here is simple. Waco radical feminist lesbian Dr gets sleeping buddy to talk to her normal male son, she has been trying to force feed feminity onto,, and gets her quack feminist Dr to proclaim""" oh my he has gender identity crisis issues'" BUNK"
This is a 100% feminist. Powerplay.
With the life of an innocent boy at stake
Luckily or unluckily this boy has a dad sticking up for him
"" real gender issue boys want to be girls all of the time and will stick up for their rights..
It's clear James is in no way gender conflicted
The mom has delusions of grandeamd sugar coat it as feminists do , but they want him on hormone blocker meds. Or chemically castrated
I just wonder how many thousands of innocent boys are being turned into girls just like this with no father or male influence to stop the insanity????

I wonder??
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(05-23-2020, 06:52 AM)ItalianFemBoy Wrote: The issue here is simple. Waco radical feminist lesbian Dr gets sleeping buddy to talk to her normal male son, she has been trying to force feed feminity onto,, and gets her quack feminist Dr to proclaim""" oh my he has gender identity crisis issues'" BUNK"
This is a 100% feminist. Powerplay.
With the life of an innocent boy at stake
Luckily or unluckily this boy has a dad sticking up for him
"" real gender issue boys want to be girls all of the time and will stick up for their rights..
It's clear James is in no way gender conflicted
The mom has delusions of grandeamd sugar coat it as feminists do , but they want him on hormone blocker meds. Or chemically castrated
I just wonder how many thousands of innocent boys are being turned into girls just like this with no father or male influence to stop the insanity????

I wonder??
That was my concern when I approached this; ten minutes on this forum shows you how far some parents will go with petticoating (I know from my own childhood experiences) so how many are prepared to go a step further in the search for a daughter goodness only knows.
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